Comments on: UK Gas and Electricity Crisis Looming http://www.vitaltrivia.co.uk/2005/08/27 Trivial thoughts on vital subjects Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:49:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.1 by: emanuelleer http://www.vitaltrivia.co.uk/2005/08/27#comment-46055 Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:22:20 +0000 http://www.vitaltrivia.co.uk/2005/08/27#comment-46055 Nothing seems worth. Today was a total loss. I haven't gotten anything done for a while, but eh. Not that it matters. Maybe tomorrow.I am not only encouraged by that. Nothing seems worth. Today was a total loss. I haven’t gotten anything done for a while, but eh. Not that it matters. Maybe tomorrow.I am not only encouraged by that.

]]> by: Ippoippo » Slow Acceptance http://www.vitaltrivia.co.uk/2005/08/27#comment-46 Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:35:51 +0000 http://www.vitaltrivia.co.uk/2005/08/27#comment-46 [...] f our lack of Gas. There is a video of this here. Mind you, some of us were already saying this. Now, where things get interesting is Brown’s attitude goes through a subtle change over the [...] […] f our lack of Gas. There is a video of this here. Mind you, some of us were already saying this. Now, where things get interesting is Brown’s attitude goes through a subtle change over the […]

]]> by: Naresh http://www.vitaltrivia.co.uk/2005/08/27#comment-43 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 16:57:14 +0000 http://www.vitaltrivia.co.uk/2005/08/27#comment-43 Another good article Chris. I can't see any flaw in your conclusions, although i agree with Rich, there is significant gas storage capacity being built, one of the big Scottish companies was building it, but i think has recently sold it to the German utility giant E.on. I think the plan B in so far there is one, is to import from Russia, but for the next 10 years maybe, after that???? It also brings up important issues to do with balance of payments and balance of trade. I don't think many realise how much the so called 'Thatcher economic renassance' of the 80's and 90's depended on North sea oil and gas. When that is gone, which will be for the most part within the next 20 years, Britain economic outlook won't look so rosy anymore. Another good article Chris.
I can’t see any flaw in your conclusions, although i agree with Rich, there is significant gas storage capacity being built, one of the big Scottish companies was building it, but i think has recently sold it to the German utility giant E.on. I think the plan B in so far there is one, is to import from Russia, but for the next 10 years maybe, after that???? It also brings up important issues to do with balance of payments and balance of trade. I don’t think many realise how much the so called ‘Thatcher economic renassance’ of the 80’s and 90’s depended on North sea oil and gas. When that is gone, which will be for the most part within the next 20 years, Britain economic outlook won’t look so rosy anymore.

]]> by: Max Oakes http://www.vitaltrivia.co.uk/2005/08/27#comment-42 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:58:51 +0000 http://www.vitaltrivia.co.uk/2005/08/27#comment-42 I used to work in Transco pipelines and would support this article. There is more to say. Gas replaced coal during the period 1975 to 1998 or therabouts. We do not now have the coal reserves some think. Our best coal is gone, and our coal production continues to decline. The last big coalfield in the UK was Selby, it is now shut after 20 years of production. When the gas declines we will not be able to go back to coal. Peak UK coal production was in 1913. Gas imports depend on willing exporters. Russia may keep its gas to itself. Simmons says Russias two biggest gas fileds are declining. Iran Saudi Arabia and Quatar may decide to turn gas into diesel, with surplus heat and hydrogen used in upgrading the increasingly heavy crude oil production. Natural gas is in demand in the Middle East for desalinisation, chemical industries and electricity. The scale of energy imports of coal, oil and gas by 2020 will create a huge trade deficit that is unlikely to be sustainable. The UK used to export manufactured goods to exchange for raw materials drawn largely from the empire. The situation we face has no precedent. I see large reductions in UK energy consumption as a likely outcome. This will have significant societal consequences. I used to work in Transco pipelines and would support this article. There is more to say.

Gas replaced coal during the period 1975 to 1998 or therabouts. We do not now have the coal reserves some think. Our best coal is gone, and our coal production continues to decline. The last big coalfield in the UK was Selby, it is now shut after 20 years of production. When the gas declines we will not be able to go back to coal. Peak UK coal production was in 1913.

Gas imports depend on willing exporters. Russia may keep its gas to itself. Simmons says Russias two biggest gas fileds are declining. Iran Saudi Arabia and Quatar may decide to turn gas into diesel, with surplus heat and hydrogen used in upgrading the increasingly heavy crude oil production. Natural gas is in demand in the Middle East for desalinisation, chemical industries and electricity.

The scale of energy imports of coal, oil and gas by 2020 will create a huge trade deficit that is unlikely to be sustainable. The UK used to export manufactured goods to exchange for raw materials drawn largely from the empire. The situation we face has no precedent. I see large reductions in UK energy consumption as a likely outcome. This will have significant societal consequences.

]]> by: Rich http://www.vitaltrivia.co.uk/2005/08/27#comment-37 Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:27:34 +0000 http://www.vitaltrivia.co.uk/2005/08/27#comment-37 Hi - might be worth pointing out that gas surplus is a relatively recent phenomenon and the UK economy got by fine for many years by importing. Could also point out that Europe is or will shortly be served by Russia, Angola, the Caspian and Trinidad (via Liquid Natural Gas transport) and that there is a surplus of gas whos security is assured by its diversity, if not the security of individual supplies. So the real issue is short term import capacity and they are building new import facilities. Short term shortfalls will be addressed by commercial bulk purchasers on self-imposed turn-down contracts shutting down briefly. A little too early, perhaps, to be investing in candle companies. Hi - might be worth pointing out that gas surplus is a relatively recent phenomenon and the UK economy got by fine for many years by importing. Could also point out that Europe is or will shortly be served by Russia, Angola, the Caspian and Trinidad (via Liquid Natural Gas transport) and that there is a surplus of gas whos security is assured by its diversity, if not the security of individual supplies.

So the real issue is short term import capacity and they are building new import facilities. Short term shortfalls will be addressed by commercial bulk purchasers on self-imposed turn-down contracts shutting down briefly.

A little too early, perhaps, to be investing in candle companies.

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